Question:
Are horse bot flies harmful to humans?
Penny's from Heaven
2006-10-05 15:40:45 UTC
I spent a good part of my afternoon removing bots from my horse. I had never seen them on her until today. She's on a de-worming regimine, but gets tons of pasture time. I gave the stable a heads-up and checked a couple of the other horses. They didn't seem concerned, but I was just wondering since I removed the bots by hand.
Ten answers:
2006-10-05 15:59:29 UTC
I don't think they harm humans but they sure do sting like the dickens!
?
2016-10-16 11:24:54 UTC
Horse Bot Flies
2016-03-18 09:16:58 UTC
A bot knife works well, or one of those grooming blocks- it's made of a soft stone material and is great for helping to shed them out and will pull the bot eggs right off, but they are harder to use in some places of the body than a bot knife. I recommend both, as they are both under $5 a piece.
cmdynamitefreckles
2006-10-06 09:26:26 UTC
I spend alot of time killing bot flies that have the audacity to bother my horses. It has never bothered me at all. As a matter of fact I've never heard of it bothering anyone, though I suppose there is a chance you could be allergic to them.
Betty L
2006-10-05 17:22:04 UTC
I would be very careful messing with them bot flies because I watched discovery channel and a women kept telling the doctors that she had something in her head and it was crawling and they thought she was crazy but the doctor finally seen the little worm like a maggot pop up out of her head and he had to put Vaseline on it to smother it so it would come out and he grabbed it with tweezers. I don't know if its the same kind of bot fly but I would be very careful.
?
2006-10-05 15:44:30 UTC
It's nice to keep the barn clean. But bot does no harm to humans!!!
jessanderin
2006-10-06 16:47:39 UTC
No, not at all. That's great you have your horse turned out a lot. Here pretty soon, after it frosts (I live in Ohio) the botflies will cease to exist. Just keep scraping them off. But they aren't harmful to you at all.
celebration.creations
2006-10-05 15:50:40 UTC
nope. Just annoying to try to get off your horse
^..^fox~~
2006-10-05 15:49:51 UTC
Bot Flies, aka Torsalo or Dermatobia hominis



Bot flies (Order Diptera, Family Cuterebridae) are large, stout bodied, hairy flies that resemble bumblebees. The botfly egg is deposited by a mosquito or sometimes by another insect. The larva grows in the host's body until it is fairly large. The botfly larva can easily be killed by taking away its air supply -- by putting vaseline or similar on the skin where the lump is, but then you still have to extract the larva. Adult botflies have nonfunctional mouthparts and do not feed. Larvae of this species parasitize wild and domestic rabbits. Females deposit their eggs in or near the entrance of their host's burrow. Bot fly larvae penetrate their host through the skin or natural body openings after hatching. The larvae form a tumor (called a warble) in the subdermal zones of their host and remain at this location until larval development is complete. Larval development varies among species, ranging from 20 to 60 days. Before pupating, the larvae leave the host's skin and drop to the soil.



Generally, the host is not severely damaged by this parasite. The majority of the injury occurs when the larvae exit the host through the warble. Parasitism by the botfly does not affect the edibility of the rabbit (assuming you eat rabbit), generally the area adjacent to the warble is trimmed away, and the rest of the rabbit is suitable to eat.



Is there such a thing as a human bot fly? Yes, we're sorry to say there is. Called the torsalo, Dermatobia hominis, occurs in Mexico and Central America. Fortunately, getting one is an extremely unlikely occurrence for the average visitor.





2nd instar torsalo larva, note the hooks to hold it in place! One of the really cool things about this insect is that it lays its eggs on a mosquito and the eggs hatch when the mosquito feeds on a host. Do humans get warbles? Yes, (are you disgusted yet)?





A torsalo warble

While the maggot feeds on its host (you) it has to have a hole in the skin so it can continue to breath. It takes about 6 weeks to complete development on its host. There are stories of entomologists rearing torsalos on themselves in order to get a good specimen of an adult (which are rarely captured), but we regard this as taking your profession a little too far.





Camphorated snake oil -- a product of Mr. Peter Singfield of Xaibe Village, is an excellent solution. Also good is his highly camphorated virgin coconut oil.



Says Peter:

Just take a little tobacco -- or even heavily camphorated oil soaked in a small cotton packing -- tape over vent hole -- the worm comes out -- 8 hours later pull off the tape -- voila -- one grub -- no infection -- everything OK.



I tell people here to apply "Tiger Balm" to every "bite" -- as soon as they know it.



Tiger Balm is rich in camphor.



You know -- here -- in every village -- they have one or two people that are very good at squeezing them out. Not just for people -- but for dogs to -- which get a lot of these.



They have to feel first -- to line up the grub properly -- then they squeeze in a special way -- a real "art" -- and the worm just pops out -- shooting ten feet or more -- like from a gun.



From what I have observed --



It is like they are massaging the worm -- very gently -- then "pow" -- a sudden fast squeeze -- just the right pressure -- and at just the right time.



As for myself -- I am probably getting a few of these each year -- but never know it. Applying camphorated oil all the time to every bite. Remember how I carry it around with me in the car??



Anyway -- it probably kills and expels the "seed" -- so nothing gets to develop. Camphor is a very powerful "penetration" agent. Oil has always been good stuff for wounds -- etc.



By the way -- here is the "original" Vic's Vapour rub -- using coconut oil --



Heat four teaspoons of coconut oil. Crush one teaspoon of camphor (Kapoor or Karpura). Dissolve this in the oil. Keep it stored in airtight bottles. This can be rubbed on the chest and throat of the child to relieve congestion. (This can also be used for any muscular pain).



From this site:

http://www.healthwrights.org/articles/home_remedies.htm



Whole bunch of home remedies from India there --



Now -- check out this site for old American home remedies -- lot's of good stuff there -- and lots using camphor -- hey -- this is where Vic's comes from!!

http://www.americanrevolution.org/medapp3.html



Here are a few folks' experiences with botflies in Central America:









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You can normally tell if its a bot fly from the breathing hole in the skin that the bot fly needs in order to be able to breathe.



It is typically a very clean pin head hole, I used to do a few extractions of Bot flys from the British military when they came out to the island from the jungle, they had all kinds of pretty gross things from being stuck in the Jungle day and night for weeks on end.



Anyway to get the bot larvae out alive we used to take a Coke bottle and light a cigarette take a few puffs of the cig and blow the smoke into the bottle, once the bottle was full we would hold it over the breathing hole and wait for the larvae to come to the surface of the hole in order to get some fresh air, once it poked its head out we would get the squaddie up against the wall and 2 to 3 of us would put our thumbs around the perimeter of the hole and push as hard as we could.



I tell you we had to push hard but eventually this big hairy maggot came out pretty disgusting.



Once it was out we put it in a clear film canister for the Limey to take with him, disinfected the area and he went on his way.



I only noticed a slight swelling and redness around the hole.







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My husband had a botfly bite him at Chan Chich a year ago. He had a bump on his head that kept growing and was painful. No other symptoms. He finally went to his MD who referred him to a plastic surgeon. She took it out on the spot and it bounced off the table and on the floor causing the medical assistant to shriek in fear. Surgeon sent it to a lab and a lab tech who had been to the tropics recognized and identified it as a botfly. It grows larvae inside the bite spot and eventually, they come out. If you type in "botfly" on the net you will see some gruesome photos.



We learned that this is fairly common and the locals treat it by using a lighted cigarette over the wound, drawing the larvae out. Everybody on the bz culture list laughed when they learned that my husband went to a plsstic surgeon!



But the swelling and puffiness in places other than the bite site concern me. Its possible that this is an allergic reaction atypical of a botfly, but my recommendation is that your wife go to a plastic surgeon and have the bump opened and whatever is inside removed and analyzed.



When my husband got the lump and it kept growing, my big fear was, not surprisingly, cancer (as is always a concern when you have a lump). The botfly scenario was actually a relief. Nobody ever died from a botfly bite.



By the way, from what I have heard, its not very common to have these bites on AC, most often they happen in the jungle.
rodeolvr
2006-10-06 15:38:41 UTC
There are, however, some species of flies (Diptera) that help us. Pomace flies, for example, are vital research subjects in genetics. Hover flies and bee flies pollinate flowers. Robber flies kill many harmful insects, while tachinid flies are parasites of other pests. Even blow flies help crime scene investigators solve homicides.



You don't even have to leave home to encounter flies. We all know the pesky house fly, Musca domestica, in the family Muscidae. They are known to spread a variety of diseases, but ironically are fastidious groomers. Watch one and you will see it rub its feet, draw a leg over each wing and wipe its eyes. Those eyes are better than ours at perceiving motion, making the fastest fly swatter look like slo-mo. Pads on their feet let house flies cling to slick surfaces, or alight on the ceiling.



All flies go through the same life cycle, beginning life as an egg, which hatches into a larva, or "maggot." The larva feeds and grows, shedding its outer cuticle (exoskeleton) several times. Eventually, the larva molts a final time into a pupa. Inside this capsule-like stage, the insect is re-programmed, and its cellular structure rearranged into that of an adult fly. The time it takes to complete this metamorphosis depends on variables like temperature and humidity.



Adult houseflies live only two or three weeks, but there can be ten to twelve generations in a summer! The cycle from egg to adult can take as little as seven to ten days in warm weather. Horse dung is the favorite breeding medium for house fly larvae.



Besides house flies, you may confront "fruit flies" hovering over your bananas. These are actually pomace flies of the family Drosophilidae. Attracted to fermenting substances, they have an extraordinarily high tolerance for alcohol. Larvae eat mostly the yeasts that infect bruised produce.



Amazingly, these tiny flies have giant chromosomes in their salivary glands, allowing researchers to easily pinpoint specific genes. This unique feature, coupled with the flies' rapid life cycle, makes them ideal subjects for studying inherited characteristics. Drosophila melanogaster is the common species in the lab and in the wild.



Humpbacked flies (family Phoridae) look like pomace flies, but run more than fly, scurrying with a jerky gait. They have varied life histories. Depending on the species, larvae develop in rotting organic matter, or as internal parasites of insects, other arthropods or mollusks.



Entering the bathroom, you may find a small, hairy insect clinging to the side of the basin. That would be a moth fly, family Psychodidae. Moth flies can reach staggering numbers in locations close to their typical larval habitat of sewage. The few found in the average home usually develop in the drain trap.



Your porch light at night attracts a different set of flies. Relax. Those giant mosquitoes, or daddy longlegs on wings, are harmless crane flies (family Tipulidae). Most do not even feed during their brief adult lives. The larvae, known as "leatherjackets," may be aquatic or terrestrial, depending on the species. They eat mostly decaying organic matter, though some kinds are vegetarians and a few are predators.



Also mistaken for mosquitoes are the midges (Chironomidae). Nearly identical to skeeters, midges are incredibly abundant, especially near water. Males often gather in great swarms over prominent objects. The whining of their wingbeats is annoying, but they do not bite. The larvae of most species are aquatic, feeding on microorganisms. Many species build cases of sand or debris.



Mosquitoes (Culicidae) rarely show up at lights, so bugzappers are useless. Ultrasonic devices don't repel them, either. Carbon dioxide in your breath, and other chemicals like lactic acid, draw the bloodsuckers.



Walking through the garden in daylight will introduce you to some flies that resemble wasps or bees. These flies have bold patterns of black and yellow that mimic the colors of species that predators find dangerous or distasteful.



Flies have only one pair of wings, and usually very short antennae, while wasps and bees have two sets of wings and longer antennae. Flies also have sponging or sucking mouthparts, in contrast to the chewing mandibles of stinging insects.



Taking this mimicry even further, some hover flies in the family Syrphidae even hold their front legs in a position to imitate antennae, and buzz their wings at the same frequency as their venomous counterparts. Syrphids are diverse, important pollinators of flowers, and the larvae of several species are voracious predators of aphids.



The larva of the drone fly, Eristalis tenax, is known as the rat-tailed maggot. Living in putrid waters, it breathes through a telescoping tail it stretches to the surface. The narcissus bulb fly, Merodon equestris, is another convincing bee impostor. Its larva is unusual in being an occasional pest of daffodils.



In addition to impersonating bees, some of the fuzzy bee flies (Bombyliidae) parasitize them. A female Bombylius major hovers over the burrow of a solitary bee, and lobs eggs down the tunnel. The larvae that hatch crawl into the cells of their host, and feast on the pollen and nectar stored for the bee's offspring. Other bee flies are parasites of solitary wasps, tiger beetles or other insects. Several species have long beaks through which they sip flower nectar.



The bumblebee disguise of Laphria robber flies (family Asilidae) can even fool scientists who know better. Look for Laphria at rest on foliage, logs, and tree trunks in sun-splotched woodlands. They cock their heads as other insects pass overhead. When suitable prey presents itself, the fly dashes out, grabs its victim and returns to its perch to feed. A sharp, stout beak administers the kiss of death.



Robber flies of other types are more streamlined. Large Promachus species buzz loudly as they fly short distances from perch to perch. These and similar varieties, like Efferia, Proctacanthus, Asilus and Diogmites, are most abundant in open fields, glades and prairies, and along riverbanks and forest edges. They can kill large beetles and grasshoppers, and even cicadas. The habits of the larvae remain a mystery for most species, but some are external parasites of beetle larvae.



Horse flies and deer flies



Many of Missouri's forty-plus species of horse and deer flies have dazzling striped or spotted eyes. Horse flies (genus Tabanus) can be huge, while deer flies (Chrysops) are smaller, with dark spots or bands on clear wings. The blood-feeding females slice, dice and slurp with blade-like mouthparts and a sponge-like pad similar to a house fly's. In livestock, blood continues to flow after the flies have departed. The open wounds invite infection and provide sites for screwworms and other parasitic flies to lay their eggs. Bites to humans can result, rarely, in severe allergic reactions, and our sensitivity increases with each bite.



Female tabanids are attracted to dark, moving objects and shiny surfaces. They often chase cars and frequently wind up as roadkill. Males, with wrap around eyes, seek only nectar and females. They sometimes swarm above treetops and man-made structures, the better to attract the fairer sex.



Another biter is the stable fly, Stomoxys calcitrans. It is related to the house fly and closely resembles one, except for the needle-like beak. Both sexes take blood from a variety of hosts. Harassment of cattle by stable flies, as well as horse flies, can cause a decrease in milk production and disrupt grazing patterns. Stable flies rarely breed in manure, preferring decaying grass clippings, wet hay and compost.



Among our largest flies are the mydas flies (Mydidae), which frequent forest margins. Mydas clavatus is a mimic of a large spider wasp, with a red band on its black abdomen, and shimmering violet wings. The larvae may be predatory on scarab beetle grubs.



Controlling Common Flies



Some folks swear by an unusual method of repelling house flies. They fill a clear plastic ziplock bag half full of water, and attach it to the outside surface of a door or window. No one is clear on why this works, but it does.



Flypaper still works well indoors, trapping flies that alight on the sticky yellow ribbon. Fly swatters are even more entertaining and rewarding. Pesticides are not recommended, to avoid contamination of foods and dishware.



A new trap, dubbed "Flybrella" by its creators at the USDA-ARS, is now approved for use in restaurants and other indoor settings.



Sanitation and exclusion are still the best preventive measures. Make sure trash cans are securely covered and emptied regularly. Dispose of manure and other organic waste quickly. Patch holes in screens and seal openings to the outdoors around pipes and electrical conduits.



Controlling horse and deer flies is virtually impossible. Avoidance is the best strategy. Donning a hat keeps deer flies off your scalp, and wearing light colored long sleeve shirts deters bites on extremities. Using repellents containing DEET is recommended, but never apply such chemicals to your skin. What residues are not absorbed will be quickly sweated off anyway. Using repellents on children is especially risky.





A wealth of flies are parasites of other insects. Chief among these are the Tachinidae. Tachinids usually have very bristly or spiny bodies. Females can use devious tactics to access their hosts. Some species lay hundreds of minute eggs on foliage near their caterpillar targets. The caterpillars consume a few eggs in the course of feeding, and the maggots that hatch slowly consume their host internally.



Adult Trichopoda have feather-like scales on their hind legs that resemble the "pollen baskets" of bees. Trichopoda glues an egg atop a squash bug or stink bug, where the victim cannot reach to wipe it off.



Bot flies of the family Oestridae are parasites of mammals, living as larvae in such unthinkable places as the stomach lining of horses (Gasterophilus), sinus cavities of deer (Cephenemya), or under the skin of rodents (Cuterebra). The adult flies approach the size of bumblebees, but are rarely seen. Most species have no mouths, living off stored fat accumulated in the larval stage. Once thought to fly faster than the speed of sound, it is now known they seldom exceed 25 miles per hour. Still, livestock are known to panic at the approach of these insects.



Most blow flies in the family Calliphoridae dine on deceased bodies, and are indispensable agents of decomposition. The familiar "bluebottles" like Cynomyopsis cadaverina and Calliphora vicina, are named for their iridescent blue abdomens. Phaenicia sericata and Lucilia illustris are common, bright metallic "greenbottles."



Although they grow up in rotting flesh, they are competent pollinators of wildflowers. The black blow fly, Phormia regina, can be found as an adult every month of the year.



These species, and the secondary screwworm, Cochliomyia macellaria, are important to forensic scientists in Missouri. Some blow flies appear on the scene of death within minutes, while other species follow later, in a predictable sequence. Time of death can be accurately estimated by establishing which species are present on a corpse, and at what stage of development.



Phormia and Phaenicia have helped living people, too. During World War I, and shortly thereafter (early 1930s), sterile maggots were employed to clean wounds. The larvae eat only dead tissue, while secreting an antibacterial chemical that retards infection. To this day, maggots are still used in difficult cases of deep bone infection (osteomyelitis).



Flesh flies in the family Sarcophagidae also exploit carrion. Sarcophaga haemorrhoidalis are black and gray with scarlet eyes and "tails." The females arrive at a carcass later than blow flies, but catch up by laying live maggots instead of eggs. They can also find bodies indoors, where few other flies will search.



Tick-like, with flattened bodies and grappling hook claws, the louse flies (family Hippoboscidae) are truly bizarre. The wingless "sheep ked," Melophagus ovinus, is a familiar bane of livestock owners. Otherwise, hunters are the ones most likely to see these secretive parasites.



Larval hippoboscids develop one at a time, inside the female fly, feeding on milk-like glandular secretions. "Born" as fully grown larvae, they pupate immediately, on the host or on the ground. Most species emerge as flying adults, but some break off their wings after dispersing and settling on another host.



Louse flies feed on blood. Many, like the squab fly, Pseudolynchia canariensis, are common on pigeons or other birds, and sometimes serve as living ferries for feather lice. Lipoptena depressa occurs on deer.The world of flies is full of many more amazing stories, some yet to be deciphered. So, before you swat that noisy nuisance, you might want to contemplate its beneficial qualities. Or, maybe not.


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